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The meaning of Jesus for life and community – Part 3: Church Leavers

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It is commonly assumed that people who leave churches do so either out of conflict with the leaders of those churches or out of frustration. These individuals are pictured as banding together to diss the established church and argue that the path they’re on is the real, true and authentic express of community through which Godde may be found. They’re often portrayed as backslidden at worst and off track at best in terms of their relationship with Godde.

Just over two years ago I went on sabbatical for 3 months, and then never went back to church. Recently I’ve been having conversations with some people from my old church. I’m quite disturbed by the number of people who apply the common assumption to me – that I left out of frustration and am embittered by my experience. Sorry guys, that brush simply doesn’t fit. I said in my last post that I’d be picking up conversations stemming from my desire to create a new architecture for church. In this post I want to comment on church leavers’ ongoing journey with Jesus as well as my own.I’d like to draw attention to several resources.

  • James Fowler’s Stages of Faith is a book exploring the various stages of faith people grow through as they move toward maturity in faith. I recommend this to be read along with Myra Perrine’s What’s Your God Language?. Basically, people will express their faith most naturally in keep with their development as well as in keeping with their temperement. Church focuses on a narrow developmental period along with a  narrow expression of spirituality. One could profile various expressions of faith from Buddhism to Hinduism to Islam to Christianity to the various spiritualities bannered under the term New Age.
  • Church Outside the Walls is a documentary. Part one is available as a free download. Ironically, the church leavers interviewed here reflect similar things you’d hear said in a Vineyard Church. Many people leave churches because of the reasons these interviewees reflect. I’ve likewise spoken to a number of people in Cape Town, South Africa, who reflect similar reasons for leaving churches. Many people in the Vineyard Churches I’ve been a part of joined the movement due to those same reasons. This evidences that individuals both leave churches due and join other churches for similar reasons. It seems that people can be fulfilled equally through a church-less spirituality as a church-filled spirituality.
  • Allen Jamieson wrote a book called A Churchless Faith which he’s recently followed up with Church Leavers: Five Years On. I’ve read the former but not the latter (it is in the mail). I like his work because the exploration evidences that many church leavers do so for different reasons to those commonly assumed. Often those leaving churches are those who’ve been significantly involved. Not all of them leave because they’ve burnt out.
  • I’m part of an emerging community and some insight can be garnered from a conversation we had around this same subject. The community I’ve becoming part of includes a few committed to churches but wanting to explore alternative expressions of the Christian faith. Most of the people involved are church leavers. Some left due to withdrawing from a wider conflict they were being sucked into. Others left because of a dual life created by Christianity not including the creative and the sensual. A few left simply because church doesn’t “scratch the itch” of their spirituality based on their temperament and developmental phase.
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Why did I leave?

There were a number of contributing factors to my leaving the church I was a part of:

  • I felt sandboxed. I really enjoyed the first few years I spent as an urban missionary. Eventually I realised that the church I was a part of wasn’t going to become the church the people I was reaching needed. Without being able to rework the architecture of the church I felt I was wasting the finance of my sponsors and selling those I was reaching short as I wasn’t able to provide them with a fully functional spiritual home.
  • I felt the need to de-church myself: I realised that I’ve spent a few years in church and that the system had become part of my outlook. I realised I was not looking to building a community experienced based on the culture and needs of those I was working with. Rather, I was looking to reflavour church as it had been in my experience. I felt the need to get away from “church” and thinking about “church slightly different”. This meant time away.
  • I felt like I was being strung along. A year prior to my sabbatical the church recommitted to take me on staff as soon as they were financially able. This offer came as a great encouragement to me as I wanted more financial stability in my life and I saw it as an opportunity to be able to contribute to the re-structuring of church. I realised then that I had to make a decision about how long I was willing to remain where I was. I was already feeling sandboxed and considering the limitations of the church’s ability to serve as a spiritual home for people who didn’t share the same language and culture. I was already thinking about the need to somehow get back to the willingness to “build church from the ground up”. I realised that if this offer didn’t materialise then it was time to move on. 3 months after that “due date” I initiated the follow-up and discovered that there was no definite movement on their side to fulfill the commitment.

So I left.

What do I take with me?

Beyond leaving, what am I left with?

  • Good memories. I’ve had a lot of fun in ministry and in church. I’ve had man adventurous experiences and have a lot of good memories.
  • Experience. I’ve got over 10 years of experience as a committed churchgoer. Before this I had about 13 years of experience at the periphery of church, much of it being annoyed by Christians trying to evangelise me. I take all of this experience with me and know that it goes into the general “kitty” of experience.
  • The desire to maintain relationship. I know some of the “out of church” groups develop a stance that is anti-church. Personally I’m not an never will be found in that camp. Humans are dysfunctional and so every human institution will be dysfunctional. Similarly, I won’t be found in the church camp that says “all your base are belong to us” – you need to be part of an institional church. We need to grow and develop more expressions of our spirituality that are rooted in Christ and we need to do so in the soil of other people’s lives and their cultures. I don’t believe the various denominations and movements covers all the bases that are needed. Every tribe and tongue and nation and generation needs to discover Godde for themselves. I’m keen to be part of a being church in a new culture, a postmodern or post-postmodern culture. I do so in partnership with Jesus. Like I said in my previous post, the established churches need to recognise that newer expressions of church are equally valid and that they’re on the same team.
  • The desire to tap into the wisdom of older churches. Our forebears likewise embarked on adventures in pursuit of the dream of Godde in their time. They’ve learnt a lot along the way. I’d love to tap into their acquired wisdom.
  • The desire to feed into the life of older churches. Many churches continually reform themselves. Being part of something radically different means I’m able to pass something back. There’s a lot established and slower churches can learn from smaller adaptive experiments. I’d love to feed some of my experiences back into more established churches, including those I’ve left.
  • The desire to be part of the new. I feel “called” by Godde to be part of shaping and contributing toward emerging churches. This calling is general, in the sense that I wish to dialogue with those who’re “doing church” in novel ways. This calling is specific, in the sense that I feel called to form communities that are actually new ways of “doing church” rather than old/modern ways disguised with different lights and styles of music.

I’m not sure if my journey here will be relevant to others but felt the need to share anyway. I trust you will find the resources stimulating.

I highly recommend Nic Paton’s series on shamanism:

  • The shamanic shadow. link.
  • Shamanism, Inteview One: Anthony Paton. link.
  • The shamanic shadow in the Old Testament. link.
  • Shamanism, Interview Two: Gavin Marshal. link.
  • The shamanic shadow in the New Testament. link.
  • Shamanism, Interview Three: Tim Victor. link.
  • The shamanic shadow in the 3rd millenium. link.

I’m going to take a break from my current series to explore some of the contributions we can take from Eastern Spirituality. I’m busy doing a course rooted in Eastern Philosophy while reading several books. I trust you, the reader of this blog, will join me for that series as well as comment here on your own “church leaving” and “church abiding” experiences. For additional reading on this subject, to tide you over, you may want to read Ken Bakers A Missional Church.

  1. January 28, 2008 at 4:01 pm | #1

    Tim
    It’s good to see a summary of your journey.

    One of the most important things to deconstruct for church- (or relationship-, or country-, or job-) leavers is the reason why and specifically what bitterness/failure has come with.

    Only once we work through these reasons can we build something new, if we are not to simply repeat our mistakes.

  2. January 29, 2008 at 7:05 am | #2

    Nic

    I agree. Every one of us has a story and it is important that that story is heard.

    I often feel though that people “assume” rather than “hear” others’ stories. That’s certainly something that’s come home to me again recently. Ultimately I’m focused on a vision and calling.

  3. January 29, 2008 at 7:17 am | #3

    Good point. Calling and vision need to come before belonging. We can belong, go through motions, and not hear anything. Either from others or for ourselves.

    But that’s a tall order, if someone is happy in a community, it’s very hard to be uprooted, for example.

    I think it depends on the characteristic of the community – if its a healing/curative community that’s different to a visionary/prophetic one. In the former, sucess is a move to wholeness, and in the latter, sucess is a move to truth.

    Does this make sense, I wonder…

  4. January 29, 2008 at 7:23 am | #4

    It does indeed, you’re not a crazy raving loon yet! I experienced the Vineyard positively in both respects – as a healing community and as a prophetic community.

    It’s nice to presently be involved with an experimental community with no pressure and no conclusion-istics in play (yay, a new word). It’s exciting being open to hearing from Godde and seeing where S/He takes us.

  5. Jan Ritchie
    January 31, 2008 at 10:01 pm | #5

    Tim, this is the first time I have been on your blog… very interesting stuff. And thanks, Nic for sharing the insight “One of the most important things to deconstruct for church- (or relationship-, or country-, or job-) leavers is the reason why and specifically what bitterness/failure has come with” and that “Calling and vision need to come before belonging”.

    These things are indeed tall orders, very tall! Having recently left a -church, -relationship, -country and -job and thinking that I knew why I was doing it, the actual vision and calling are not as clear as I thought they were… One friend aptly shared that we also need a vision so that we can deal with all the rubbish that will come our way, EVEN if we are following our calling.

    So how do we start this “deconstructing”?

  6. February 1, 2008 at 11:12 am | #6

    Jan

    That’s a good question. I suppose it all has to do with passion for the truth of our lives. I too was a leaver, but after a long period of time (10-15 years) in which I just tried to stay true, this changed into an emerger.

    Vision appeared, it took me several months to recognise that. I guess I had to ask question hard, I had to beat at doors. And I think that a door different to the one I knocked on, opened. (I am possibly going to post something on “my last letter to the church”, on the 12th Feb.)

    Deconstructing is all aboout courage. The courage to take ourselves and our culture apart and trusting we will be built again.

    And of course communing with our tribe, because they can give you courage, and they can help you see what needs to go, and what needs to be built.

    Fear not, post-Christendom is a beautiful place. G-d seems much more present there.

    Tim?

  7. February 1, 2008 at 12:35 pm | #7

    Nic,

    Thanks for being so personal and real. I look forward to reading your letter if/when you post it. Thanks for being such a meaningful tribe member and co-conspirator.

    Jan,

    I think leaving, like grieving, is often short-circuited.

    The journey is nomadic, which means its tough and relatively straightforward. Move away from where you started… move toward where you’re going… rest enough along the way… find abundant sources of nourishment… don’t forget to look at the sights along the way…

    Deconstruction lies in the journey itself.

    Vision is like a compass and not the terrain and most certainly not the path. It may take you through strange places and times… to beautiful or inhospitable places even. If the journey is long then it is important to rest sufficiently along the way. It is especially important to find what nourishes you.

    Wear sunscreen.

    Vision can’t be forced or rushed. If you need to drive your vision its either not your vision at play or not the time. Vision will emerge from within and is the fuel of the journey. It is in the sojourners bones and makes them restless.

    Jan, is this still the early part of the journey, where you need to continue letting go and grieving or latter part of the journey where you can start to choose what to build and enjoy?

  8. February 12, 2008 at 11:23 am | #8

    Please forgive me for using this comment facility but I could not easily find your email address. I just wanted to say, as a new blogger, that I like your site and especially it was good to see how very active your visitors are with comments – that must be most encouraging for you! I also want to invite you to look at my site at
    http://www.yourspirituality.blogspot.com. I Would love to hear what you think, And if this is not too presumptuous, if we could possibly exchange links to each other.

    Sincerely

    andre

  9. February 12, 2008 at 12:03 pm | #9

    Andre,

    No stress. Glad to have you visit. I see that you lecture at the School of Truth in Jo’burg. Sounds interesting. I’ll mail you to find out more but feel free to comment here.

  10. February 13, 2008 at 6:21 pm | #10

    Gosh, Andre is spamming every site in the Christian/religion blogosphere…I think he’s found us through Amatomu. Linkshares are fine, except when you spam 100 people asking the same thing. Grrr…

    Anyway, moving along. Wait, I’ll make a new comment instead…

  11. February 14, 2008 at 6:51 am | #11

    Hey Roger,

    Nice to have you drop by :)

    I’ve ended up having an interesting chat with Andre so far.

  12. Lesly Uys
    August 28, 2008 at 7:59 am | #12

    Hi there,

    I like your website. Went and looked around…. thought-provoking. Isn’t it interesting that we can never run away from our calling?

    I nearly left the church this year. It was BAD. They really didn’t support me even though God was growing the prison ministry at an astronomical rate, totally unheard of within the church. In one year we expanded into 44 different prisons country wide with anything between 4 and 10 cell groups in each prison. I (God) did this with a very shakey team of about 6 people working with me…. most of whom do not have transport or jobs and travelled from Gugg’s and Kayalitsha at 5am in the morning to meet me to go into the prison to take God’s Word.

    Interestingly, God told me that prison ministry was optional (I could take it, I could leave it) but leaving my church was not an option.

    It’s been a horrendous journey at best but I’ve learnt not to rely on the church to springboard me into ministry, but that I am the church…. so…… what kind of a church do I want to be?

    A book that really helped me get things in perspective was *Loving God when you don’t love the church* by Chris Jackson. I’d like to grumpily add that I didn’t like what it said, but I did grow tremendously.

    True authenticity in your relationship with God, IS NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED ! So……….. Tally Ho!

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